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    I received my dry ferts today unfortunately my KH2P04 had a hole in the package and lost half of it onto my carpet, just emailed Green Leaf Aquarium about the incident and hopefully they will do something about it.

    Water Params:

    NH3/NH4 0 ppm

    NO2- 0 ppm
    NO3-0 ppm
    pH-7.8
    PO34- .5 ppm
    KH-8
    GH-12
    Fe- None
    Temp: 78 F
    Light: 2pm-8pm (6 hours)

    Did a 75% WC

    Wednesday 3/13/13

    Dose: (Macro Day)
    1 1/2 tsp KNO3
    1/2 tsp KH2PO4
    1/2 tsp K2SO4

    50mL of Flourish Excel

    P.S. I also bought Iron Chelate but didn't use it, just in case I need it for the future.

    When can I test my tank again?

    Edit: Here is a side shot of my tank. Qt tank is blocking a front shot

    Last edited by AmazonPassion; 03-13-2013, 07:00 PM.

  • #2
    You can test after a couple of hours. Just give it time to mix well. But I recommend testing just before each dose. So tomorrow test just the iron, if you want. It tested 0 today, so you already know there's none in the tank.

    And the following day test the nitrate and phosphate.

    The reason for this is so you do not OD your tank. And can adjust the amount in that day's ferts.

    Post a picture too. Then you can see the growth from week to week.
    - Dena

    All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them.
    Walt Disney

    The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.
    Socrates

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    • #3
      Tomorrow I dose the plantex csmb?

      I didn't put any iron in my tank yet.

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      • #4
        Yes, you dose CSM+B tomorrow.

        Awesome! You got your fertilizers!
        Christine

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        • #5
          Originally posted by AlyeskaGirl View Post
          Yes, you dose CSM+B tomorrow.

          Awesome! You got your fertilizers!
          I am more excited of the fertilizers then my CO2 Kit.

          Sidenote: GLA is sending me a replacement of KH2P04

          Edit: 10:50am

          Dose: (Micro Day)
          1/2 tsp Plantex CSM + B
          10mL Flourish Excel

          Will test tank this evening for:

          Nitrates
          Phosphates
          Iron

          Anything else I need to test for?
          Last edited by AmazonPassion; 03-14-2013, 10:52 AM. Reason: Edit: added Edit note

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          • #6
            This all sounds very complicated but will be worth all the work
            Never underestimate the power of a smile

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            • #7
              Test results 3/14/12 5:20pm PST


              NO3-10 ppm (Yesterday result was 0 ppm)
              pH-7.8
              PO34- 5.0 ppm (Yesterday result was .5ppm)
              KH-7 (Yesterday 8 drops)
              GH-14 (Yesterday 12 drops)
              Fe- Registers a little but no number
              Temp: 78 F

              Question:

              What should my dosing be for tomorrow? (Macro Day)

              Sidenote: I am happy that I finally got some Nitrate into my tank...should I test before I dose the Macros? to see if any of the results have changed?

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              • #8
                Now the fun begins!! Finding the balance for your tank....

                As you already have 10 PPM NO3, I would dose half as much as before. The target range is 10 - 20 PPM.
                Skip the next PO3 dose. Your tank has plenty for now!
                KH - Keep an eye on it. Dropping carbonate is an indication that your plants may need more CO2. If it continues to drop you may need to increase Excel
                GH has gone up slightly due to the CSM+B dose earlier today. It will drop back down.
                Iron may need to be increased. I suspect tomorrow's test will return 0 iron. Therefore you may need to increase the dose.

                As tomorrow is Macro day, and based on your dosages from Wednesday, I'd recommend Friday's dose be:
                1/2 tsp KNO3
                No KH2PO4
                1/2 tsp K2SO4

                How much CSM+B did you dose today?
                - Dena

                All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them.
                Walt Disney

                The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.
                Socrates

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                • #9
                  Post #5 says he dosed 1/2 tsp of CSM+B this morning.
                  Christine

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                  • #10
                    Oh, I missed that!

                    Saturday's micro dose should be 1 tsp CSM+B. We need to add extra to get a measurable level.

                    When is your water change day?
                    - Dena

                    All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them.
                    Walt Disney

                    The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.
                    Socrates

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by catsma_97504 View Post
                      Now the fun begins!! Finding the balance for your tank....

                      Iron may need to be increased. I suspect tomorrow's test will return 0 iron. Therefore you may need to increase the dose.

                      As tomorrow is Macro day, and based on your dosages from Wednesday, I'd recommend Friday's dose be:
                      1/2 tsp KNO3
                      No KH2PO4
                      1/2 tsp K2SO4
                      In a weird way this is getting fun

                      When you say Iron, are you talking about the Iron in CSM + B or the Iron Chelate 11% because I haven't use the Iron Chelate


                      Originally posted by catsma_97504 View Post

                      When is your water change day?
                      WC is Wednesday 3/20

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by AmazonPassion View Post
                        In a weird way this is getting fun

                        When you say Iron, are you talking about the Iron in CSM + B or the Iron Chelate 11% because I haven't use the Iron Chelate

                        WC is Wednesday 3/20
                        i know, isn't it!

                        Yes, she is talking about the CSM+B.

                        Christine

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                        • #13
                          Yes, in a strange way I enjoy the challenge of finding that balance as well as the joy of having an aquarium that will practically care for itself. My tank, when it is running tip top I drop the ferts in, feed the fish, and do my weekly water change. Takes so little effort! It is those other times of strife that we hear about more often so the wrong impression occurs.

                          As for your iron, yes I meant CSM+B. We need to figure out how must to dose to maintain a measurable level. You have MANY iron loving plants and will need extra....just need to find the magic key to unlock the secret. DON'T do this....yet....but if you dose 1 tsp and still have no measurable iron, then it would be time for the chelated. Let's first see what happens this week without the chelated.

                          Once you start to understand how to balance and adjust, it will become second nature to you!
                          - Dena

                          All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them.
                          Walt Disney

                          The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.
                          Socrates

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                          • #14
                            3/15/13

                            9am

                            Dose Macros:
                            1/2 tsp KNO3
                            1/2 tsp K2SO4
                            10 mL Flourish Excel

                            715pm Test Results:

                            NO3 10ppm
                            pH 7.8
                            PO34 5ppm
                            kH 7 drops
                            gH 14 drops

                            Note: didn't test Iron since I didn't have any measurable numbers yesterday. Tomorrow is CSM + B 1 tsp

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                            • #15
                              You are right on target! It will be very interesting to see how much iron remains in your tank after the increased dose tomorrow.
                              - Dena

                              All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them.
                              Walt Disney

                              The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.
                              Socrates

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