Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Starting Ferts - Help/Advice Needed

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Starting Ferts - Help/Advice Needed

    Ok, I got my dry ferts last week and decided I am going to start them this week. I did a water change this morning and took all my readings.

    Picture of tank taken this morning:



    Tank is 28" high, with about 3" of that being substrate. The lighting is about an inch above the top of the tank. I am using 2 - 36" quad lights, but I only light 2 bulbs on each at a time - a 6500K and a 10000K bulb. The lights are on from 8 a.m. until noon and then from 2:30 p.m. until 6:30 p.m. I have glass tops.

    Readings are as follows:
    Temperature - 79*
    pH - 7.6
    Ammonia - 0
    Nitrite - 0
    Nitrate - 10 ppm
    KH - 125.3 ppm
    GH - 143.2 ppm
    Phosphate - 1.0 ppm
    Iron - .05

    I used a chart on AquaDaily (http://aquadaily.com/2009/01/29/co2-ph-kh-chart/ ) to determine the CO2 level in the tank and if I did it right, it is somewhere around 7. But I did my tests shortly after the water change and I hadn't put any Excel in this morning.

    I got my ferts from GLA. I am not using CO2 injection yet - still too scary and I want to get the hang of the ferts first. I am using Flourish Excel every day.
    This is what I think my dosages should be for my 150G tank:

    KN03 - 5/8 tsp.
    KH2P04 - 5/16 tsp.
    K2S04 - 5/16 tsp.
    I would do these on Monday, Wednesday and Friday

    CSM+B - 5/16 tsp. on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.

    Flourish Excel - 15ml every day but Sunday (water change day)

    Any comments, hints, criticisms, advice will be more than welcome. I am heading for bed now because I have to work tonight, but I will be checking from work later because I want to start this in the morning.

    Thanks.
    __________________________________________________ __________
    Lori

    30G, 5G

  • #2
    Would you like me to move this post to the "fert" section?

    What method of dosing are you using? EI, PPS, etc..?
    Please check out:

    Forum Rules

    Information about Duplicate Posts


    Warnings, Infractions and Bannings

    Comment


    • #3
      CO2 isn't that scary once you understand how it all works I thought it was too confusing at first too but I made lots of posts with questions and eventually took the plunge. It makes a HUGE difference! Your plants will thank you once you go for it

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by NorthStar View Post
        Would you like me to move this post to the "fert" section?

        What method of dosing are you using? EI, PPS, etc..?
        If you want to move it over there, I have no problem with that.

        I have no idea which method of dosing I am using. I went by the chart that was in Dena's article. I have a 150G tank so I added the dose for the 80-100G and the 40-60G together to get the amounts I am going to use.

        Originally posted by kinezumi89 View Post
        CO2 isn't that scary once you understand how it all works I thought it was too confusing at first too but I made lots of posts with questions and eventually took the plunge. It makes a HUGE difference! Your plants will thank you once you go for it
        I do plan on doing CO2 eventually, but besides being nervous about it, the cost is not in the budget right now. I want to make sure I get the right setup, not just the cheapest. Maybe if the overtime at work holds out for a while I will be able to swing it.
        Last edited by NorthStar; 04-21-2013, 06:47 PM. Reason: Merge b2b post, you can use the multi quote feature
        __________________________________________________ __________
        Lori

        30G, 5G

        Comment


        • #5
          Oh I can understand that. That's what took me so long to do it in the first place. Rather than buying a kit, I pieced mine together myself, and it was about $220.

          Comment


          • #6
            Looking good even before ferts Lori
            ~Erin
            10g, 20g, 29g, 55g

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by Raerianna View Post
              Looking good even before ferts Lori
              Thanks. I'm aiming to have a real jungle in there .
              __________________________________________________ __________
              Lori

              30G, 5G

              Comment


              • #8
                Looks like you have a good plan in place.

                One thing I'd like to add is using that pH-KH-CO2 chart to estimate carbon levels does not actually work. Those charts assume the only buffers are carbonate; but that is not true. Phosphates are another buffer. Further those charts assume you are using CO2 gas, not Excel.

                As you are currently using Excel, simply monitor plant growth and a lack of algae growth, especially BBA.

                Good luck!!
                - Dena

                All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them.
                Walt Disney

                The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.
                Socrates

                Comment


                • #9
                  Now I am supposed to put them in before the lights come on?
                  __________________________________________________ __________
                  Lori

                  30G, 5G

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Most add the ferts before lights on; but this isn't always possible. Just add them around the same time each day should cover things.
                    - Dena

                    All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them.
                    Walt Disney

                    The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.
                    Socrates

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      I did the 3 different ferts yesterday morning and the CSM+B today. My readings tonight were:
                      pH - 7.6
                      Ammonia - 0
                      Nitrite - 0
                      Nitrate - 20 (increase of 10)
                      KH - 107.4 (dropped 7.9)
                      GH - 161.1 (went up 17.9)
                      Phosphate - 5 (went up 4)
                      Iron - 0 (down .05)

                      Am I still within acceptable parameters?
                      __________________________________________________ __________
                      Lori

                      30G, 5G

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Yes.
                        Please check out:

                        Forum Rules

                        Information about Duplicate Posts


                        Warnings, Infractions and Bannings

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          I definitely wouldn't add any more phosphate. And you may want to up your dose of iron, as it seems your plants are using up everything you're putting in.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Agreed; I wouldn't add anymore KH2PO4 for now.

                            Nitrates- when your next dose comes, test first and see where it is at. If you are 10-20ppm still then reduce your dose or skip all together. What you are doing is testing and adjusting your dosages to maintain 10-20ppm.

                            I would increase CSM+B on your next dose.
                            Christine

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Thanks. Tomorrow is the phosphate day so I will just skip that one part of it and I will up the iron a little bit the next day.
                              __________________________________________________ __________
                              Lori

                              30G, 5G

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X